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I was over at my mother in laws house and somehow the topic of underwear came up. She admits that she never wears underwear and then proceeds to lift her dress up to prove it. I was staring at my mother in laws pussy not knowing how I should react. She then asks if I wear underwear and I tell her I do. She asked me to show her and probably against my better judgement pulled my pants down letting her see I was wearing underwear. She came closer and unexpectedly pulled my underwear down. I was shocked and just stood there with it all exposed to her. I just stood there in complete shock as she just stared at me. She finally said we learned some interesting things about each other today. She then said I could pull my pants up unless I wanted to stay that way. I pulled them up and she just casually went about things like nothing ever happened. I never told my wife and wondered what this whole thing with her was about.

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by Anonymous

Was it a good looking fuckable pussy? Was it smooth or hairy?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

It is smooth and fuckable. I got hard when I saw it. She saw me hard when she pulled my underwear down.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Did she do any touching when she pulled your pants down or did she just look?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

My ex-boyfriends mom were topless when we were in their cabin having a summer break. She was older and she wasn't that beautiful.

She had no problem doing laundry, cooking and being topless there, even though her son was right there. He said it was normal for her and that sometimes she had been topless even if his friends had been there. I didn't mind it though, I think people can do what they want, but what was awkward, is that I was there and his friends had seen it too.

My dad have seen me naked lots of times. My boyfriends and friends have seen me naked, but if someday I would have a child and my childs friends would be with us in our cabin, I couldn't be there bare breasted.

I sort of admire her, being so free, but I couldn't do it. Some people just are so free spirited.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#4, I'd love hear more about the how's and why's of your dad seeing you naked "lots of times". It sounds like there's a story to go with that...

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#5 not much of a story, but I try to explain how and why my dad have seen me naked.

Dad and I lived together until I was about 23 years old. I do not have a mother, so dad was my "mom" when I was becomming a woman. Sounds more dramatic than it really is.

When I was teenager and studying, he decided to move into a smaller apartment because I would eventually move out soon. I was 17 when we moved. The new place were otherwise quite nice, but it had only a small corner in toilet as a shower. We needed to go every wednesday and saturday to the apartment building sauna where we had one hour session. When we moved, it had only one showerhead, but later on they build another one in there too.

You can imagine how when other one of us were soaping, other one were showering and we could see each other naked. When I was a kid, it was normal to go with him in sauna, but of course when I was getting older, hair growing down there and having breasts, I knew my friends would had seen it awkward or even sick, so I never told them we were still going togehter. But for us it was perfectly normal and we never quit it. Later on when I visit him, we have been in sauna together.

We soaped each others back and sometimes more but not masturbating each other. Although I could feel a tiny sexual spark lighting up towards him when I was 19 and older, I met my first boyfriend soon and (kind of unfortunately) dad and me never end up having sex in there. But I had seen his hard on few times in there and of course his morning wood too when living together.

Our relationship had changed to more adult before we had moved because dad had brought a woman to our home and I heard them having sex. I was in a shock, because I thought he would bring a "new mom" and I didn't want it to happen. Sexuality before it had been only periods and me becoming a woman and dad needing to take the "mom" part too. But when we were arguing about it, I made one question which turned everything open. I asked "It was only a sex?"

It was only a sex for him. I was seemingly relaxed that there wouldn't be a unknown woman in our home, but it also meant so much more to me. Suddenly my father were no more just a dad. He was a man with sexual needs, with bed squeeking and him grunting and having an orgasm with a woman! I was almost traumatized and felt so alone because my childhood was going to an end and it was frightening. But after our screaming little by little I understood him too. I had needs too, so why couldn't he have them.

We could talk about sex and although we never had sex, one day seeing him having a hard on in sauna and him being ashamed of it, and his words "I should have sex", referring to that woman he had brought home, it lit a spark in me too and it grew. After the initial guilty feelings I did thought about him too. But then when I had prepared and could had been ready to act on it, (we were in a dressing room and when we took our clothes off, he got an erection), it was too late because I had a boyfriend with whom I was so in love and I didn't want to cheat on him. Besides, I don't know how my dad would had reacted to it, so acting on it wasn't that easy.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#6,Are you still with your boyfriend, or a boyfriend? If not, do you ever get alone time with your dad? He still have the sauna? Never completely close out a possibility...

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

You should really consider giving your dad some pussy!

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#8 I am. Why do you think I would tell about it here if I wouldn't consider it?
#7 No. He was my first boyfriend and it didn't last that long. I had mentally prepared for the moment when dad would had erection again, but we had just started dating each other when I was ready to say something.

I was too shy to say anything to my dad when we were in sauna and he didn't had erection and when he did, I was even more shy. I was waiting that one special moment for many weeks, what to say, what lube I would take with me so it wouldn't look so obvious but would be useful if it happens (I was afraid it might hurt), how to suggest it to him, how we could do it in the dressing room. I even thought of how I would get pills, but not before it would actually happen, because I had heard he could hold it if he wants to and I thought he could pull out from me before he would cum and because I didn't had money to spent something if it wouldn't be in use. But then when I was ready, I was in love and I thought that it was just a phase or something and concentrated on my boyfriend.

It wasn't a phase. When I have got older, the feeling and thoughts came back and are strong, but at the same time I'm also cautious how much of his good signs are just my own imagination and misunderstanding and how much is he genuinely interested of me, and I mean sexually.

It is easy to talk with him all kinds of sexual things. For example he have mentioned few times when I have shave all my hair from down there, or when I have let it grew back. And this summer there was a television show running and we watched couple of episodes of it together and then talked about them. We also talked about other episodes too we hadn't watched together. That show was about different erotic habits and porn industry around the globe. We have sometimes talked about sex with my boyfriends, but usually not that much. We have only rarely talked about masturbation. But he do know that I do masturbate and even that my friends gave me my first toy as a birthday present and that I have bought couple of toys since, and that I do like it. Last summer when there were a one episode about spanking, he did spanked me gently when I walked past him, but once again, it was not enough for me to push out my ass and let him continue.

When we have been in sauna, and when we soap and wash each others back, he still wash my buttocks. Touches like that keep the spark on, but they are not suggestive enough for me to get courageous enough to make a move to answer him or ask him to go forward. When my boyfriends have touched my sideboobs and more, dad have never go near enough them. Most daring thing I have ever said to him, was when we were talking about masturbation and I said when I masturbate, I do like to have something inside me trying to hint that I could really use a cock.

Dad lives alone in the same place, and we often go to sauna together when I visit him or when he visit me, so I do get lots of alone time with him during the year if I want. But to act on it is not that easy. I have thought countless of times of what to say to him or how to take things forward, but always the moment is different and I do not know how could I suggest anything like that to him. This situation is so frustrating. It would be so amazing if someday he would be in me and would just let go.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#9, #7 here.

It is so easy to over think the situation. So often simple is best. Since it seems you have a shy streak, I won't suggest the blatant, but you can still signal your desire without giving dad a heart attack.

Simplest is giving him a hug while you're both naked in the shower together. If he already has an erection, a tight face to face hug with lots of body contact and some hip grind should get the point across. If you feel too shy to do that, try the same from behind when you're soaping his back. Again, incorporate some movement to make sure he knows it's more than incidental contact. If the contact isn't met with hard denial, get your hands on his cock. Stroke the shaft and gently cup his balls.

Get face to face with him if you aren't already and kiss him. Take your hand off of his balls and pull his face to yours if you must, but kiss him hard and full. Get your tongue involved.

This is the tipping point. He'll either return the kiss and hold you really tight or pull away from some societal training that's been drilled into him that it's wrong to "take advantage" of his little girl. In either case it's your job to reassure him that you're old enough to know what you want and that what you want is him, inside you.

If he doesn't seem responsive to your claims of maturity, you've reached the point where you have to decide exactly how much you want this to happen and if you're willing to be bold to make it so. There are few reasoned arguments that can be sustained in the face of a blow job from a pretty, young woman. Drop to your knees in front of him and get a mouthful. Overwhelm his senses and get him to think with his small head.

If you want to discuss it further in private, I'm poster46 at outlook dot com.



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Anonymous

by Anonymous

It is more easy to said than done. I have done things like that to my boyfriends when they have been more shy to act, but it is so much easier to do it to them, because they know that we are a couple and that being a couple means sex.

But with my father. He is my own father. I'm afraid I could lose what we have if he doesn't like it and I have only one father to lose.

But thanks. I will try that hugging technique because that is a bit familiar for both me and my dad. Over the years I have tried to get closer and closer to him, and I mean physically. For example hugging would be easier to start, because I have already done things like, when I have soaped him, or if I have soaped myself, I have rub myself against him and I have also rubbed my breasts or ass against him. Skin together slick skin feels so amazing with him! If someday he would have an erection, or got one when I do that. WOW! But I already know, I can't never drop to my knees and suck him, if he doesn't show it without hesitation that he want sex with me.

Weekend is coming and I have thought, should I meet him saturday, or invite him to my place and have a sauna, but although everytime I have hopes something could happen, nothing happens, so, although talking about this have really got my juices flowing, too bad there is the harsh world too where not all hopes are fulfilled. I have already had stupid teenager like wishes like how he would someday read this and then realize it is me. I guess I still have a bit romantic in my heart after all these years when nothing have happened.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#10 here.

All I can add now is my best wishes for good luck in your pursuit. I'm hoping you'll be able to wipe the smile off long enough to come back here and tell me if you're successful. And, of course, give all of the sexy details of the encounter.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#10 here again.

From a strategy and results perspective, I want to toss in my two cents and urge you to work up the courage to hug him face to face when you're in the shower. The feel of pert young breasts against his chest and your belly or pussy grinding against his cock (whether it's hard or soft when you start) will jump start his libido much more quickly than the hug from behind and gives you the added advantage of being able to look in his eyes when you do it. What you can't do, however, is show him a facial expression that can be read as doubt or fear. Do your best to give him a look that's a combination of confidence (even if you don't feel it) and the desire you've already admitted to.

Again, good luck. I'm rooting for you and your success.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#10 here again.

Here's a couple of last minute thoughts about what to do if you get your Dad into bed today, that is if you're not off to the sauna yet.

The first is something you'll have to judge for yourself. If he seems really turned on by the naughtiness of being with his own daughter, play up calling him Dad or Daddy while you're in the act.

The second is an almost universal thing for all men. Once he's in you, praise his dick. Tell him how good it feels inside you. Tell him how BIG it feels inside you. If there's any hesitation at the start, telling him that should push his libido switch to 11.

And good luck as ever. Please come back by to tell me how things went or toss an email to the address I left earlier.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

We were in his sauna yesterday. Let me explain a bit what kind of place it is. He have two one hour sessions during the week, wednesdays and saturdays.

There are two large shower rooms, which are connected from left and right to the actual sauna, which sits in between them. Of course you can't see into other shower room, because there is two smoked glass doors on both sides of the sauna leading to both showerooms.

It is in a cellar level of an four story apartment building. When we get in there, there may be another family on the other showerroom for half a hour. While we are in there we can use the sauna for half a hour but then we must leave when another family may come to the other showeroom again half hour later. So the sauna times are divided by every half hour but families can use the showerroom for a hour. Sorry, it sounds so complicated.

But for example, when we get in there at lets say 20:00, we can use the sauna till 20:30, when other family will arrive and they will use the sauna. Then we can still be in shower room till 21:00 So the showerrooms are for hour, but the sauna only for half a hour

My father is quite regular going to sauna, but there are families who do not go that regularly in there. Sometimes we have been there all alone, and sometimes even longer than that one hour and nobody haven't got into the other shower room.

Yesterday there were people in the other showerroom though. We were in sauna first and left when we heard another family coming in. We washed ourselves. I tried to be courageus and when I soaped myself and him, I was brushing my body against him, breasts and everything. We heard the other family being in the sauna. Then when we were rinsing the soap off, I did it like I was brushing my body against him and let the shower water run between us.

When we heard another family being in the sauna, and just that smoked glass door between us, I whispered asking him if they would know us, would they see us totally i****tuous. That was the first time I used that word of it together with actual act. I also used word, "father and daughter" doing things like that and "tits" that I had brushed against his body.

He laughed, but we talked about how people do see us and I even asked would he tell his friends that we go together in sauna, and although he do know, I reminded him how I haven't told my friends that we go together and what we do there. He did admitted that most people would thought it as i****tuous although we haven't done i****t in there.

I tried my best to make it more special and secret moment than just us being in sauna.

So nothing happened, but it was very exciting to say i****t out loud and even hearing him saying it, and talk about how different it is when we are in there.

I thought of mention him having erection before when I talked about i****t, but it would had been so out of picture that I couldn't brought that up in that conversation. But although nothing happened, I managed to say atleast something.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Baby steps. Maybe next time you won't have anyone breathing down your necks or observing through the glass.

Did he get hard when you were rubbing up against him and talking about i****t?

Does he keep the information about sauna visits away from his friends the same way you do? Is it a little secret for the two of you to share?

Did you actually hug while you were in there or did the other family scare you off from pursuing that part of the plan? If you did hug, did you give him any hip movement? Or was it tits only?

Were your nipples visibly hard when you rubbed up against him? Is hard their normal condition in the shower or would it be something different that he might take note of?

When do you think you'll visit him in the sauna again?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

The glass doors are made of smoked glass, which is somekind of coating, so you can't see through them but they let the light shine through them a bit. Most thing you can see, is if there is light behind you, they might see a vague figure of you, but even then you need to be right behind the glass door. I'm not worried about people actually seeing us even if we would someday end up fucking there. Only thing I'm worried when they are in sauna, is that they can hear our showerroom.

We have heard other people being there too and one time, although we didn't heard sex, joyfull laughing we could heard made my imagination running wild.

He have mentioned that we go to sauna together to his friends, but not lately and now I mean years. Sometimes I have heard him mentioning on the phone "We are going to sauna", but that is it. No mention how we are going there together or anything like that.

I got the feeling that brushing our bodies together like that while soaping and rinsing are on the grey zone and he haven't and wouldn't tell that. Although I couldn't say that it is our secret, I did wanted him to hear that it is meaningful for me and that it is a secret for me. And I also think that he doesn't feel any need to tell his friends anything. I hadn't. But atleast comparing to him, I do have need to keep my mouth shut about it, lol My friends would think I'm crazy if I would tell them, how I brush my breasts against my father, when I'm trying to spread the froth with them.

He didn't specify what exactly was or would be i****tuous, but he did said it out loud how they might see it i****tuous if they would know us, so I guess he meant the touching isn't that appropriate. But I'm a bit worried though what he meant about "we hadn't do i****t in there". Did he meant actual intercourse? I don't know.

Umm. I need to clear this sauna culture out a bit. Sauna in our culture is not a sexual place. It is a place of purification. It doesn't mean people wouldn't had sex in sauna, because they certainly do!

Whole family can go into sauna together no matter what the age is, and like I mentioned, there was nothing bothering when we went there when I was a child. Usually girls, when they develop, they quit going there alone with their fathers or brothers and that is more about getting self aware of the growing body and not because somebody would actually tell them not to go. It means that on the other hand they can go in sauna for example with their male and female friends during parties. Nudity itself is not the problem.

I think it goes way beyond history. It is seen as odd, if a daughter or sister goes into sauna together only with his father or brother when she are getting old enough to breed. That is what I encountered. Not from my father, but from my friends. I do not have a mother, so my dad have always been my mother figure too, along with mothers of my friends. But if mom, dad and me would had go into sauna when my breasts and bush were growing, nobody wouldn't had any problems with it. I hope you can understand the "duality" of it.

Then right after daughter or sister have got her first boyfriend or are married, even if she would be single again, there is no problem with going sauna with your brother or father anymore. Kind of funny when you think about it. Do people really think, that sex and sexual needs magically vanishes then?

Maybe it has something to do with virginity, and more speficially "purity of woman", which means a lot more than just intact hymen?

So those few years are the "shameful" ones and usually during those years daughters and sisters will find boyfriends and they will then leave home and they won't go with their fathers or brothers in the sauna again. I don't know. That is how I have explained it to myself.

In my case, I had to go to sauna with him because I had no choice really. It was hell to go in to that small corner and trying to shower there. I didn't mind going with him though.

He didn't had a hard on. I was checking on it when I was getting horny, during when I rubbed my body against him and when we talked about i****t.

I have sometimes soaped his thighs, by having one of his thigh between my legs, but to actually brush my pussy against his thigh would be extreme. I did hugged him, but not exactly squeezing him tight against me. I did held his arms for example. My nipples do react quite quickly, but in the showerroom and in the sauna, there is warm and although I have reacted to his touches by getting horny, I'm not sure have he noticed how my nipples react to him. Of course, when I'm rubbing myself against him, my nipples are hard and oh my, if he could feel between my legs.

I'm not sure when we can go into sauna together, but I do look forward to it. It is difficult to talk about this, because I have to remind me how I do not want to fill my mind with wishes and false hopes. For example I have wondered was he soft because of age, or being worried, if he sees i****t with me as a bad thing and for that reason he was soft.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

A few thoughts:

The next time you hug him in the shower, hug him around the neck. It's a little more intimate than giving him a hug around the torso and allows more body contact at the hips since it will force some arching of the back by the woman reaching up.

Since you're trying to push his barriers, you'll have to push some of yours as well. If you get his thigh between your legs again, be bold and give it a few strokes with your pussy. Let him feel the heat he creates in you. Have you ever moved high enough in this position to feel his balls or cock against your thigh or hip? If you have, do it again and hold for a few seconds so he gets a clue that the contact isn't incidental.

To be honest, if he didn't get erect while you were rubbing your tits all over his chest and talking about i****t, it's probably fear of getting caught that's keeping him at bay, especially since others seeing you seemed to be the theme of the conversation. Another thought would be that you've successfully desensitized him to thinking of you as a sexual object with your long standing nudity.

Reason two in the paragraph above is why you might have to go to measures you consider extreme to get his attention as a possible sex partner. The short term goal is to get him hard. To do that you're going to have to give him physical and verbal cues that you are available to him for sex. I'm aware it takes you out of your comfort zone, but it looks to be the only way you'll get him to think about you more as a lovely, horny young woman and less the dutiful daughter he's supposed to "protect" from men.

Once you have him hard, his conscience will get smaller and you'll have the opportunity to trap his dick between your bodies for a hug and grind. Much more intimate contact than you've expressed before. That's the highest risk maneuver I'll suggest since if I've read you right, taking his erection in hand is never going to happen unless he's already committed to putting it in you.

One thing I'm having trouble tracking. You quote him as saying "we hadn't do i****t in there". The verbs don't exactly stack up in English as far as tenses. I'm not sure which language is your native one, though if I would hazard a guess it's Scandinavian of some variety. Is the closer meaning of what he said "we haven't done i****t in there" or "we don't do i****t in there"? In English there is a distinction in the subtext of the two.

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Mondays can be a bitch.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Have sauna time scheduled for this weekend?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

#17. You still around? Seen your Dad lately? Any progress?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

He meant we haven't done i****t in the sauna. But I only found out it a week ago, thursday, when we talked about i****t and I asked what he had meant. He thinks that what we have done there is not i****t, but he was sure that if those other families would see us there, they would think it is i****tuous and I agreed. I think he means that what we do there is not bad, and I took it like we can continue it, but it is still a secret.

I was horny when we talked about it, but I couldn't push it any further. He mentioned all the rubbings by name and I mentioned him brushing my buttocks too and other things like that, and after he had mentioned it, I even mentioned how I brush my breasts on him. We both agreed that of course his neighbors would see it as i****t.

I do not feel too good about this for two reasons. First, if he thinks what we are doing is not i****t and it is innocent, although we both agreed that it is a secret, it raises the question is the i****t, like intercourse, then a bad thing and forbidden? That would be so dissapointing.

Second thing and which one makes this even more difficult is that I know when dad was young, i****t had different meaning. We have a two words for i****t. Incest as a word meant r****g or m****ting few decades ago. Another word, which I can't translate in english means sexual act between relatives and that is more neutral, but of course it is not a ”good word” either. We have used both of those words, but lately they have been mixed together and media will use the i****t word.

I do not know what to think about it and how much he thinking would be i****tuous. I didn't dare to ask if he thinks our i****t is ”good i****t” and, would that be bad if he would fuck me.

I know you say it is easy to just say it, but it is not. When I try to say something really sexy, I feel like someone is trying to choke me and my voice is broken and all, and I get so horny! I would be ready, but that would mean success or failure. And I hope he feels the same way, and therefore I need to give him hints so he can feel relaxed and know that he can talk about it with me freely.

I'm having a boy as a friend. Not a boyfriend, no first kiss, no hand in hand yet, but we have date each other couple of times and I think he is someone who I think is interested of me. I have been interested of him too, but once again, now that I have talked about my dad in here, my fantasies are 100% of dad and all my hopes and wishes are really burning in my mind and making me horny.

Just my luck! Nothing wrong with my friend, he is sexy and all and many times safer option than my dad would ever be, but I'm so desperate that I would rather let my dad cum inside me unprotected than have sex with my friend at this moment. I do not want to make the same mistake again but this time I do not want to lose my friend either. Now I want to try my dad before I try to take our relationship any further! Dad knows about him, and knows that I haven't had sex with him.

We haven't talk about masturbation in ages and I brought up last wednesday that I have thought to buy a new toy. Not really. I mean, new toy would be nice but I haven't planned to buy one. There is a large sextoy shop which is advertising during late night in television, so it was easy to brought that up as an excuse to talk about sex with him. I was so horny when out of the blue I said that! Dad already knows that I masturbate and that I have toys, so it is no news for him.

In that advert there were cheap super sexy lingerie for sale, and he mentioned them first, saying how they look good and then telling a joke, how during past years you would need to pull panties away to see something, but now you need pull the buttocks away to see the panties.

We talked about them, I said that they are also cheaply made and only for sex, not for everyday use. He asked have I ever bought them. I said that I do not have any because I do not have anyone to show them. I wish he would had said something like how I could show them to him, but no.

But when I told him I have thought to get a new toy from that shope, we were talking about masturbation!

I also mentioned again that I like to have cock in me when I masturbate, and that it is my reason to buy a new dildo. While talking about new toys I said having no one to cum inside me, I would love to have a toy that would ejaculate in me. I wished so much he would had said something raunchy too. With my last resort I suggested that I will buy him a toy too as a christmas present. He didn't denied it, but I think he was too shy to say yes. Good sign was that he did asked what they are like. We then talked a moment about sex, but nothing to mention about.

I try to buy him a sex toy and then ask him to take it in the sauna. If he do take it, then I know there is a chance for us, and if he shows me how he uses it, I will ask would he like to compare it to my pussy. If he doesn't take it, then there is nothing I can do. But if he does, but he won't compare my pussy to it, then atleast we can masturbate together. I will take my toy with me when I bring it to him, but I think it would be too much to tell him that I have toy with me. I let him decide.

That is my plan. I don't know if that is any good, but I hope it would lead to more sexual relationship if not i****tuous right away. But it will be really difficult, because even now that I'm writing this, my heart is pounding and I'm wet.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Just to get it out of the way, if you manage to get the conversation on i****t again, only use the untranslatable neutral word. Don't let any hint of force or m****tation sneak into your vocabulary.

It occurs to me that part of difficulty you face is the setting. He has seen you nude in the sauna for years and it doesn't have sexual overtones for him. You may be too young to have a feel for it, but as an older man I can tell you that familiarity with a woman's body makes seeing it a lot less arousing than the first time.

I think one possible ploy might be to get some of that cheap sex only lingerie and model it for him, despite him not reacting as you hoped when you discussed it. In this case, less may be more. One of the reasons married women buy such things is to veil their bodies and tease their husbands. It makes the husband work a little for a access to that body they are so familiar with. It's like unwrapping a present on Christmas. Even if you have a good idea what's under the paper, it still excites.

The other aspect of modeling the outfit for him is that it nudges him out of his comfort zone. He's accustomed to seeing you nude in the sauna. This would be you naked, or close to, in private with no worries about another family intruding. It also opens the door to discussing your body. You can ask leading questions about how your tits and ass look in the outfit. If you get something thin enough you could call his attention to your pussy and how visible it is through the fabric.

Finally, if you're feeling bold enough, you could blatantly ask if seeing you in the sexy lingerie excites him sexually.

I don't have a clue about how big your dad is or how obvious it would be, but keep one eye on his crotch to get an idea of how aroused he is. A stiff cock has no conscience and very few morals. If your display makes it plain that he's horny for you, it's going to be up to you to close the deal.

Get an excuse ready to have him touch you. If he's obviously erect, chance sitting on his lap. Talk about how wet modeling for him makes you. I'm sure there are other notions you'll come up with on your own since you know him and his thought process a lot better than I do.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do the sex toy. Again, you know his mind better than I do. I would suggest changing location if possible. The more private the better unless he has a thing for risky public sex.

Good luck. And, if you want to take the discussion of your situation private, I'm available at the email address I left up in comment #10. That box gets checked daily, the link to this confession maybe every two or three days.

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by Anonymous

Hi again.

I was curious about your thoughts on the lingerie suggestion. If you've decided to pursue it, I was wondering if you could post or email a link to the outfit you chose.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Any plans or progress to discuss?

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

For the past two weeks I have not been able to think anything but my dad. I have checked this post every now and then, but I've been so hot and bothered that I have not been able to write anything sensible down to send here. Sorry if this sound so silly and confusing, but this is something that can, and I'm sure, will change the whole future of dad and me. That is, if something even ever happens.

I'm lucky that we have such a good relationship that we can talk about sex, sexuality and even i****t with him. So that is good thing. But I do not know how I will react if nothing happens, or if he turns me down. I hope he won't give the ”dad” talk, because that would be so humiliating. I have tried to think how I can save our relationship if he turns me down, but I can't deny he will break my heart if he do that.

Two weeks ago I mail ordered the toy for him and I even bought sexy lingerie too. I got them last tuesday.

I wanted to have something sexy, erotic, but not romantic lingerie set, so he can see that I'm not just in right mood, but also willing to push things further. I didn't bought those lingerie what we saw in the add, but I think this will do. I even made a trip into a sexshop to check out what you can get from there and asking do they have those toys that can ejaculate. Unfortunately they didn't had one.

I bought one black babydoll, crotchless panties and socks and garter belt though. Babydoll has open cups, which can show some nipple or even whole breast if I want. There is a knot that can be opened or closed over the nipple. I try to open it just enough that my nipples are in view for him. There is some lace decoration at the top part, with black but see through mesh fabric hanging loose, just enough to cover my hips and even panties.

I also bought crotchless panties. I thought about your words, and the panties are really presumptuosly open, having only a two pearl lines bringing the crotch really to the view. I still don't know if I made a mistake with them. I'm still unsure should I wear them, because I didn't realize they are so open. My pussy and ass is completely in the view! They are also black and see through where lace is not in the view. I have matching socks for them and garter belt too.

I do not know if socks and garter belt would be too much to wear together with the panties and babydoll, because when I tried them with them, they really, and I mean Really, show my pussy! From the mirror, they almost form a bullseye to my pussy because the garter belt with those panties makes it look like that I'm not wearing any panties!


I try to model it for him tomorrow right before we go to sauna, and if I can do that and he is willing to see them on me, I will then show the toy for him too. But if I can't do it in his home, then I try to bring that toy in sauna and reveal it there.

I couldn't find a dildo which would be able to ejaculate, and I try to mention that as an icebreaker. I do hope and pray that I will have a moment where I can mention it and even ask dad to do it to me if we end up masturbating.

For my dad's toy I went to ask from other men which toy would be the best and they pointed me to a toy called fleshlight. I ordered a pack which contain the toy, lube, cleaning spray can, and some powder to keep it dry. It was really expensive and I was so scared to order them because I wasn't sure if he would see it as an insult or something. But fortunately it turned out it is not all bad.

Something really good happened when we were in the sauna, over a week ago. I asked him would he use a toy if I buy one for him. He nodded and smiled wide, which is a really good sign for the future and even laughed when I said that I have checked out some of them already and I tried to describe what those toys looked like, even mentioning how he can push his penis inside and ejaculate in it.

This is the best of all though! I could see his cock nudging a bit when I was talking about my masturbation and how I can't wait to get a new toy and when I mentioned the toy which could ejaculate inside me and then talked about his neighbors.

It have been me who have brought up the topic of sex and even few words of neutral i****t during the past weeks, but last monday, he was the one who started to talk about sex. We were in his kitchen and I was getting wet when he asked do I think his neighbors ever wonder what we are doing there in the sauna when we wash each other.

What surprised me most and made me feeling horny was how he was not trying to defend us that what we do there is not i****tuous or even innocent. He have mentioned my breasts on his skin before, and he mentioned them again!

I could hear it from the sound how he asked it for real and not trying to make joke out of it. I didn't knew what to answer because I was so surprised and horny that it was difficult to even say anything, but I assured how they can maybe hear us, but how they can't really know anything whatever we will do in there and I do not believe they could hear us that clearly either.

He brought it up. Is that sign any good, or is my mind only making it sound too good. I don't know! I'm only hoping it is something we can build from it tomorrow!

But this is not easy as it sounds. I'm feeling so confused and anxious. My thoughts have been running so wild. Another day I was even imagining could I move back with my dad if we would fuck. I was thinking, if we can do it, can I sleep with him the next night, because it might help us to bring it even further.

But I'm also so anxious and can't wait tomorrow. Even taking the pill have been extra cautious and I have felt horny just by thinking why I do that now! How many doctors have prescribed pills for women like me, who are going to use them with a partner that isn't ordinary partner? Even writing this gives me goose bumps and my heart is racing.

Tomorrow I will do it! I hope I have not read his signs wrong.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

There seems to be a limit of how much you can write.

Last wednesday morning he called me and asked would we go into sauna together in that evening. As soon as I got back home, I shaved myself and I was getting mentally ready for the evening, and to ask the big question, but he had to cancel it then. I had to admit I was relieved when he canceled it. Like I said, when I wore those lingerie, they were so sexy and revealing! That is so courageous. But tomorrow I will ask the big question no matter what happens! I hope so much that next monday I will have his cum inside me! Please let it happen!

I know I'm overthinking once again everything, but I will ask it. I have tried to convince myself if it will work, it works, if not…. Well, then I have asked it and I do need to think about it anymore.

If he deny it and he thinks it is wrong if I he put his sperm inside me, I'm ready to lower my expectations and I will tell him I have condoms so he can atleast pull it out. I hope he won't ask the condoms, but if he does and he is willing to cum in the condom, I will ask can I have it and bring it to my home and I will use it later myself. But I won't push him to do anything with me though if he is willing to do atleast something together. I do not want to ruin it once and for all.

I try to settle it to a point where we could atleast masturbate together now that I have that toy for him. This is not easy, but I will ask could we have sex. I want it, but it would be easier to begin with masturbation than having full sex but I'm just afraid that if I suggest masturbating together first, he is too shy to do it with me and it ends right there.

I feel so confused and desperate.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Don't overthink it. Go with the flow. You know his signs and signals better than anyone else and if he's bringing up you rubbing your tit against him he may be sounding you out for willingness.

Very, very importantly, you need to get alone time outside of the sauna so you can give him the lingerie show in private.

Wear the garters. Be screamingly obvious. Draw his eyes to your shaved mound and see if he gets hard from the display. If he does, you're 80% of the way there and can likely close the deal without much effort beyond saying you're glad he likes it because you bought it for him.

Good luck. Let me know how things turn out. For your sake, I'm hoping you're full of his cum the next time you write me. If you start feeling shy about saying it out loud on the board here, the email in #10 still works.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Did you get to give him the lingerie show?

Did it work out like you (and I) hoped it would?

The suspense is killing me.

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by Anonymous

Last saturdays plans went almost completely down hill. I went to meet my dad a hour before we would need to go to sauna, but one of his friend had came to visit him and he sat there almost whole time.

I was feeling restless and when he finally left, something very good happened though! I think it is really good sign! My dad said how he thought his friend would never leave and almost ordered us to go to sauna. So he wanted to go in there with me!

We were already late, but went in the sauna anyway. Nothing special happened though. He was surprised to see it and mentioned my shaved pussy, so unfortunately that surprise poofed. I would have wanted to tell him how I had done it for him, but I couldn't say it in that situation.

I couldn't reveal why I had done it. I had all the lingerie and toys with me, but because we were late and had to be quick, I didn't had enough courage to show them to him after the sauna either. If you think the suspension is killing you, think how I'm feeling!!! I was fully ready to do it!

But there is more good signs! I was again soaping him with my breasts and also hugging him. I even managed to touch his penis with my thigh when I was trying to do the whole body soaping when I spread the soap on his thighs with mine I was trying to press my pussy against his leg, but I couldn't do it. He had clearly a slightly harder penis than usually.

We could hear how the other family were in the sauna and then in other showerroom. We had to be quick too because we had only twenty minutes for us left, so it helped to let our hands and my breasts wander around more shamelessly. But I was too shy to go touch his genitalia though, but what I liked, we were more courageous than ever. We even talked about i****t when we were soaping each other!

He liked it, and both of us were laughing like we were sharing a secret. He soaped me too, and let his hands wander over me, feeling my sides and ass.

I was about to ask him could I wash his penis when we talked about i****t and how close we just were there while the other family were washing themselves too. So I think my breasts on his skin is i****tuous for him too! I hope this is not just my wishful thinking. I wish from the bottom of my heart that he felt it being sexy and not just playful but innocent game.

I didn't said anything about the toys or the lingerie, because I didn't want it to end to a situation were he would watch my show, but then nothing would happen. Atleast, when we would go to sauna after it, we are naked and I hope it would be more difficult for him to escape from that moment. And there I can see if it have any effect on him and then I can introduce the toy and ask could he show it to me.

I thought should I introduce the toy to him after the sauna, but I was afraid he might take it of course, but then use it alone. I want to be there where I have atleast a slight chance to try it and my own toy with him.

This wednesday I didn't had time for sauna, but next saturday I will show the lingerie to him, no matter what, even if it happens after the sauna.

I forgot to mention that I think you have misunderstood how public the sauna is. I have to clear one thing though. When I say, we go to sauna, the sauna is a "area". It means the whole dressing room, shower room and of course the sauna. So, when I have wrote we were in sauna, sometimes I haven't meant it literally. Usually I mean the showerroom. It would be way too hot to do anything sexy in the sauna anyway.

What I mean is that the sauna itself is the only public place because it is shared, and has two doors for both of the showerrooms. The showerrooms and dressing rooms are on both side of it. Therefore, we can hear when people arrive to the showerroom and of course when they get into the sauna, but we, and they, can't see each other unless we would be right next to the glass door. And if we are silent, they can't hear us either. Therefore that is quite peaceful place and at the moment only place we can be alone for that hour. Another peaceful place for us would be in bed at night. I hope that will happen too.

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by Anonymous

Little steps, but encouraging. I like that he was so anxious to get you in the sauna and naked. It makes me suspect he's using your shower time together as fodder for his masturbatory fantasies. While he may not have gotten fully erect, he was aware and appreciative of your shaven mound.

Is there any way you can carve out some time before the next sauna visit without raising suspicions on his part that something is wrong? Or is showing up unannounced and early the best bet for catching him alone and off guard?

I truly believe you're playing a strong hand here. To make it completely clear in my mind, when you have discussed ince*t lately he has been using the neutral term and not the version that implies force? If that's the case, I think you have an excellent chance of getting your heart's desire. He not thinking of it in a negative way. He's thinking of it simply as sex between related people.

If you meet with success, please drop me an email at poster46 @@ outlook . com. That gets checked daily and I don't want to chance missing the climax of your story by even an hour. You have a good writing style and I enjoy reading your entries. Please be plentiful with details, no matter whether you answer here or via email.

Good luck, but I doubt you'll need much if you get to show off the lingerie and the lovely young woman he helped create.

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by Anonymous

There should only be one at symbol in the address. I don't know if I added it accidentally or if the system adds it to keep the spam bots at bay.

So, one more time, poster46 at outlook dot com.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

It haven't even cross my mind that he might be using our shower time for his fantasies. I hope he does!! But I hope he won't do what men say they do when they go to date, that they masturbate before it.

Insted of spilling it all over, I hope he saves it for me. I do not care if it lasts a second or a hour, because I do not want him to lose any drop before us having sex. He has no need to show off because of me. I have already seen him and he is who I want.

"Is there any way you can carve out some time before the next sauna visit without raising suspicions on his part that something is wrong? Or is showing up unannounced and early the best bet for catching him alone and off guard? "

I do not understand what you mean here? Could you explain this better and with more detail?

About the word. He have used the neutral world most often. I made the mistake, that when I first brought up the i****t theme, I used the newer more negative word.

I have tried to use the neutral word now more often, sometimes even more often than necessary, you know, adding the word to speak almost like "tasting" it, but because the word i****t is so common todays world, sometimes it slips out. My dad have used the neutral word.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

I think he's using the time in the shower to start things up. Enjoying the sight and touch of your body and trying hard to remember all of the details for masturbation after you leave.

What I was getting at was the outcome of your last visit. You went earlier than expected to maybe do the lingerie show before you went to the sauna. You were blocked by the friend that would not leave. What I was asking is whether you could schedule that extra hour with your Dad so he wouldn't be as likely to invite or welcome in somebody else.

The trick with that is that a lot of parents, when they hear their children "want to talk" immediately think the worst and worry there is some sort of problem their child wants to discuss. That's why I was sort of going back and forth. I should have kept that to myself and just urged you to show up early again. After all, if he takes the pretty bait you lay in front of him, I'm quite sure he would rather spend the sauna time in bed with you.

On the other hand, if you do run into the friend that stays too long again, I suggest you try extending your visit after the sauna. Maybe bring a bottle of wine and ask your Dad about having a glass after you get back from the sauna. If you can get a glass or two in him to reduce his inhibitions before you put on the lingerie, things may go even more smoothly.

Good luck and let me know how things turn out.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Did you get to move things forward over the weekend?

Show him the lingerie? Show him your lovely smooth mound up close? Get him hard?

You seemed full of excitement and determination. Did those translate to success in your quest to bed your father?

Again, the email address above comes directly to me if you don't want to discuss it in the open forum.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

We did it!

First, sorry, this comment is so long, and I hope I didn't miss anything, because I had to cut and paste this back and forth to get everything fit.

I was busy whole saturday, but I managed to get to his place just in time. He even called me a hour earlier asking what I was doing and would I come there. I had thought of him all day and I was hastily shaving my pussy right when he called. He have called me before, but I had mentioned I would have some surprise to show him and now he asked it again and I admitted I would have a surprise for him.

As soon as I had said it, I felt strongly that I was about to make a huge mistake and when I closed the phone the truth and seclusion really hit me. I was almost about to threw up because I couldn't take that back anymore. I was so nervous.

But I got ready, took all those things with me and went to meet him. I couldn't really discuss with him because I was so nervous, so I pretty much right after I had arrived, began to get through my bag. Dad thought I was only going to give him the late fathers day g*ft, and only later I realized he meant that toy I had mentioned him earlier.

You can imagine he was surprised when I went to bathroom to change and he saw that I had some garments with me. He asked and I did told him I had bought those lingerie. I couldn't help it, but when I watched myself through the mirror in the bathroom, I felt ashamed because my pussy lips were deep red, showing that I was excited. Only more obvious would had been hanging a sign called Fuck me, please!

I felt I was getting wet when I suddenly understood what I had said, when, being so nervous, I had messed up with my words and agreed that it, the lingerie! was the late fathers day g*ft! And not only that, but I was there changing and I hadn't even made sure if there wouldn't be maybe his friends meeting him or something like that. I didn't expect it would happen, because he had called me, chivving me to get in there. But I was in daze and wanted to get through it as quickly as possible.

I was not wet because of horniness. It was pure horror in that moment! I felt ridiculous, because my nipples were in view but worst of all, those panties didn't hide anything. But I hadn't took anything else with me and my regular panties which I had of course took off, would had been even more ridiculous, so I had to wear them, or be without. And I even thought about that too because only thing which show from them, were the two lines of pearls highlighting my pussy! I hadn't had any problem being with him completely nude, but I felt like those lingerie made me Nude!!!

I was fighting with myself and couldn't said anything when I step out from the bathroom, I did thought should I say that it was not his fathers day g*ft, but when I got out, I decided not to back off anymore. Dad had really surprised look when he saw me! I had tried to prepare for that evening, but I couldn't remember anything. I just stood there, keeping my balance, taking support from one of his chair and feeling so dumb and afraid. I didn't felt sexy at all. I felt like someone were choking me and I was afraid whad he might say.

I then managed to ask did he liked them. He did. Both our voices were forced. He said how my pussy, ass and nipples were showing up.

I was feeling so vulnerable and uncomfortable, and I could see my dad couldn't say anything either. I had imagined how I would maybe dance and seduce him, but all I could do was to turn around couple of times. I was not relaxed at all, but before I was about to escape back into the bathroom to take them off, I had took few steps to get closer to him.

I was showing him what kind of lingerie they were. He did touched them and there he even felt the pearls. They were right on my pussy! HE WAS TOUCHING MY PUSSYLIPS!!! He even draw a line with his fingertips from the pearls, to the side of my hips!!! I liked that, but we were so nervous that I, nor him could do anything there. I felt that it was too much too soon.

I couldn't do anything else, or ask him would he like to fuck me, so I went to bathroom again and took the lingerie off and got my regular panties and bra. We were going to sauna and dad was getting ready too, but before we left, I took both toys, for me and for him, of course letting him open the package and check it out what it was like.

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by Anonymous

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He didn't said a word, other than those regular ”thank yous”! I was feeling so unsure, but I put them in a bucket where we have all the shampoo etc, together with lube, cleaner etc.

But as soon as we got in to the dressing room and we began to take off our clothes, I could see through his pants that he was hard. He was not just half hard. He was really hard!

I couldn't say anything, I was just smiling like an idiot. He said something which he meant to say that he was sorry, but I just shooked my head. But when we went into the showerroom, I felt the moment, just like his erection was going away because he wasn't brave enough to touch those toys. It was again the regular showerroom, with our regular routine. I had to do something to keep the flame bright. Dad was too shy to do anything like that to me.

I let him wash me first and I was getting courageous and after he soaped me, soaping also my buttocks, I soaped his body with my chest, even trying to write with my nipple "LOVE" on his back and asking him what I wrote there. He asked me to do it again, and then I did it with my finger and he could recognize it.

There was another family too and he had a slight erection again when he understood what I had tried to do with my nipple! I got really aroused to see him getting hard again and I hugged him from the front, spreading the soap all over us and felt it getting hard against me! I was having all my hopes up! He tried to pull back still feeling ashamed to poke me, but I kept myself on him and lift my finger to my lips to tell him to be quiet and pointed to the sauna, where the other family were.

I whispered something like how they do not know we are there and not to worry and we both laughed, sharing secret. He gently poked me against my belly. I kept brushing his chest with my breasts, not only pressing my breasts against him like use to do, but lifting them with my hands too, and he let penis lean against my belly. He was laughing, but also seemingly getting bit uncomfortable when I asked would he like me to touch it with my breasts. I was bit dissapointed when he said I don't have to. I didn't knew if he was shy, or not wanting to do it and were only tolerating it out of compliment. That made me nervous.

He brought the topic of i****t up first andf I even said something like if they think it is i****t, then let them think but I can't really remember what we said exactly because I was so nervous then. I think he relaxed a bit then though, but then we showered the soap off. He did had his erection though! Dad was reacting to me, but not doing anything to me on his own.

He sat on the bench and the bucket were next to him, filled with shampoos, soaps, conditioners and dildo and his toy. First family had left and we heard another one arrived to the other showerroom.

I asked could we use those toys there, then even telling him how I was willing to let him watch me pushing my dildo in me. He clearly had cold feet, and I realized that even that was too much too soon, and he did began to wonder would it be wise to do in there.

Because those toys were in that basket, which was with us in showerroom, I said something, not realizing I was pushing it, like do we know what shampoo the other family is using in their showerroom. It was a silly argument, but he understood it.

He took my dildo and watched it. Examining it. I was washing my hair then, and I didn't knew then had he took to keep it away from me, or wanting me to do something with it while I was under shower. He didn't touch his toy.

He was still having his hard on and I was desperate and ashamed, hoping something would happen but also being sure that nothing would happen. I had revealed everything, and he was shy and as afraid as I was. But then finally it began to turn to good.

I sat beside him, we were listening the other family first in the sauna and then in the other showerroom. Our showers were running free, and I took his toy from the bucket and felt it. I took the lube bottle too and poured few drops of it, into the lips. I liked how the droplets were running into the toy. It felt almost mythical to see that they disappeared into it! I lubed my finger too and pushed it in too and told him how soft it was. He felt it too when I asked him to do it and we admired how soft it was. We talked softly about them, but it was all ordinary talking. For example I asked would he use it (ever) He admitted he would.

I asked then to push his penis inside it. He was still feeling very very shy and he was not comfortable at all about the thought of masturbating there with me. We were like two teenagers. He was weighting my toy. Literally, holding it and bobbing it up and down like it would tell him something, and it looked both ridiculous and cute. Then he asked would I push my toy in me. I eventually agreed and then I did something which I hadn't do before when he have been beside me. Dad was watching me when I spread my legs. My leg touched his and it felt electric! I had lube on my finger and I pushed it inside me. He was asking did I do it, saying he couldn't saw it, and even leaned towards me to see it. I tried to show how my finger were indeed inside my pussy. He offered my toy to me and I lubed it too and then pushed it in me. I couldn't touch my clitoris, because the moment with him was enough for me. He was watching me like being in a candy store. I must admit that although I was so nervous, then I was so relaxed that I forgot the whole situation for a moment and even managed to get quick orgasm.

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by Anonymous

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I then asked him to try the toy and not asking for a permission I poured lube on his penis. He put the toy slowly on it and he clearly enjoyed it. I loved to see it disappear into that toy. He couldn't move it because, as he also complained, he was too close to orgasm, so he just kept it in place. I asked could I touch the toy and he gave me permission, but also said me not to move it.

I loved that moment and these few days I have been masturbating reliving it over and over again. Seeing it being hard and seeing it disappearing into that toy was marvellous! Then when I hold it, that was the first time I touched his penis. Of course it was inside the toy but I mean, I could feel both the toys weight and his penis weight! I can't explain it any better. It felt like it was stuck on the root, although I couldn't saw his penis then. I was bobbing it up and down gently and at the same time, slowly moved the toy in me.

He then shushed my hands away from his toy and asked could he move my toy in me. He kept his legs together and let the toy sat between his thighs. He didn't dare to move it. I loved the moment! The other family were still there and our showers were running free and we were quite silent there, masturbating together!

I then asked would he like to see those lingerie again on me another day. He would and he then asked were I serious when I had asked would he had let me touch his penis with my breasts. I was. I remember when I mentioned to him that it was i****t. He nodded and we smiled.

Although we were masturbating and almost orgasming, we were still very shy to act with confidence and just do it. If he would had been my boyfriend, I wouldn't had any problems having sex with him. But although all I could think of how I could get him to fuck me, I couldn't tell him that no matter how badly I had told myself I would do it!

Our time was running out and after ten minutes of masturbating together, where he had asked me to squeeze the toy with my pussy muscles when he was masturbating me, he eventually pulled his penis out of his toy and then asked were I fine. I was. We quit it, without his orgasm, and began to get ready to leave. We didn't had much time to masturbate there anyway, so the sex were left for later. When we were toweling us dry, he still had half hard penis and suddenly he mentioned my breasts, telling how he had been afraid that he would had came all over them, (if I would had touched his penis with them) I said I wouldn't had mind him doing it, and even mentioned that we were in a shower and it would had been so much easier to wash it away.

I was again confused, because he had clearly liked it, so much that he had even told me not to make him cum. Then he wanted to stop it so abrutly and leave. Well, our time had been running out I can't argue with that. But he didn't said anything could we continue at his place. I didn't said much about it either and followed his lead. Because he had felt uncomfortable, and shy, I didn't want to push him into anything. I had got my orgasm, and we had masturbated, so it wasn't that bad. I was only confused would we continue or would I need to leave and maybe leave it for another day. Later when we had got our belongings and were at the door, about to leave the sauna, I asked did he felt bad, he said of course he didn't.

We went back to his home and made tea. Then I asked why he hadn't cum inside the toy. For once he was honest and relaxed. He told he had been so shy to have it right in front of me, but then he also told me that when he is getting that old, he had understood, to get orgasm quickly is not the most important thing. I relaxed too when he was so open and that him having no orgams were no problem for him. I told him how I understand him and that I had orgasmed when I had pushed the toy in me the first time and I had tried to hide it too, but that I didn't want to keep him from orgasming with me.

We talked about it almost a hour. Not just the orgasm and masturbation, but sex too, even admitting that what we had done there had been sex although no intercourse had happened, but yet I wanted to insist that when he had moved the toy inside me, had been intercourse in spiritual level.

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by Anonymous

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It was getting late and our discussion about the shower had been over a while. I asked would he like to see me with those lingerie again and then suggested we could masturbate together again and even mentioned how his friends wouldn't visit him anymore and bother us. I laughed. He laughed too. He knew I meant what had happened week ago. And somehow I knew he had wanted to do this too.

I went to pull the curtains over windows and then took my clothes off. He watched me as I wore the lingerie. He mentioned the panties, saying that they were indeed panties. I showed the pearls and said that indeed they are and, spreading the pearls and showing my pussy, I said how through there one could get in me, without needing to take them off. He too mentioned how he had noticed how convenient they are.

He had went to get his toy and brought mine to me. When he opened the cup to reveal the pussy and then took the lube, I asked, still feeling hot after the discussion of intercourse, would it be better if he comes in me. He wasn't susprised. He was afraid and said immediately how we shouldn't. I went almost to begging, saying how I wouldn't mind and reminded him how I wouldn't had mind if he would had come over my breasts in the sauna.

He couldn't make up his mind and I felt afraid too, and suggested could he atleast try it in me and then pull out, and then said that I had took condoms with me, which surprised him. He then said how he is just afraid that he might cum too quickly and what mess it could cause after shower.

I said how I wouldn't mind if he cums right away and it wouldn't be a mess if it would done in me.

I was afraid he might deny it, but he took a deep breath and then said, oh well, if I think that we can try, then well we could do it, but he would cum right away too.

He went to bed and lied on his back. I took my toy and put some lube on it, and then put it in me. I was wet and ready, but I wanted to help him in whatever way to let him go easy and enjoy it atleast a moment before orgasm. I wasn't thinking my orgasm at all. I wanted him to cum inside me!

I dropped few drops on his penis too, to make it extra slick and then climbed on top of him. I didn't dare to touch him, and it took a few tries to get him in me, but finally it went in. I didn't fucked him. I let it be inside me.

I would love to tell you the most beautiful love story, but I can't. I mean, the moment and the feeling was amazing and I want to do it again as soon as possible and for the rest of my life! But I must admit that when I felt him be inside me and I watched him there under me, keeping his eyes closed, I felt awkward. Like, wow, now it happened.

I thought about the neighbours, the closed curtains, all the sounds we could hear from the outside, and my friends and his friends, everything. How they were going about their lives, not knowing what we were doing there 11pm saturday evening. I was so aware of it.

I had thought it would be so amazing and the best moment of my life, and although it was, at first the physical feeling were the same as with others I have been slept with. It is hard to explain, because I do not mean the physical feeling, literally, like how the friction was or nothing like that. I mean the fact that I had imagined how amazing it would be because he is my father, and he was inside of me, with his penis, his bare penis and I would make him cum inside me, but then it felt just like everyone else penis.

I guess I was so overwhelmed by when it finally happened that I didn't really understood what was happening because that night when I went back home, it all felt like a dream. I mean to say I realized there was no big deal about i****t. It was not a bad feeling, not at all. The big deal was that I was making it with a person I love so much, but the i****t wasn't that important then. That aware moment subsided quickly though and I loved every second of it.

I tried to ride with him very slowly, but he made me pause every few seconds. We changed position to help him relax and control the movement. He came behind me when I was on all fours, and then I sort of sat on his lap, keeping it inside my pussy. We were kissing there and begged him to let it go in me.

I didn't last long when I could feel him throbbing in me and heard and felt his erratic fast breathing and I knew he was letting it all go. I was so close to get orgasm, but it didn't matter, because I loved the moment. All kinds of things were bubbling in my mind, like inbreeding, all the risks involving with i****t, my pills and how effective they would be, the condoms that were in my purse, that I had bought for that night, his neighbors who were at the same time in the sauna, and my friends who I met next monday, he sperm that would swim inside my womb when I would meet them. He was kissing my neck and holding my breasts.

I loved it, but he was confused after his orgasm. He didn't knew how he should have acted. We tried to talk about it, but I quickly noticed it was not the right moment for that. Eventually I took off the lingerie again and got my belongings and left to my home. My regular panties were in a mess after I got back home, so it was that quick when I left from there. I spent masturbating almost whole night. It felt so amazing to relive all evening!

Sorry that this message is so long and maybe confusing too with my bad english. I must have forgot lots of things what we said and did too, but this is at least the majority of it. It is still so difficult to understand that it really happened!

I haven't met him, but since sunday we have called every single day and sometimes even two times. I'm happy that it turned out to be good for both of us, although I was so nervous when I went there and he must have been shocked after his orgasm in me. I would love to meet him and I thought I could meet him wednesday, but I have really busy time, now that christmas is coming. We were planning to do it again next saturday. I hope we will have lots of time for it.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Congratulations. I'm so happy for you. I was so worried something had gone wrong when you didn't update on Monday like you usually do. I've felt like a one man cheer section since early October, trying to encourage you when you doubted, offer suggestions and strategy where I could, and be all around supportive of you in achieving your goal.

Again, I'm happy for you and wish you well in your relationship with your father. I'll keep tabs here for a while longer in case you want to discuss anything else. If you message me here and I don't answer for days, drop a note to the email address above and tell me to come read it.

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by Anonymous

Dad visited me this evening and spent all night. He just left. He called me this morning, when I was going to work and shyly asked could we meet. Of course we could meet and I told him to meet me right after I would get back from work! I had to postpone meeting with my friend, but it was worth it.

We had a quickie two times. First happened right after I had got back home. He was waiting me at the parking lot, because I had went to get something little to eat because I didn't want to do anything else than meet and have sex with him.

We were in my bed, I was riding again on him and then we changed to missionary position where we were kissing and slowly making love. He came inside me after a while. It didn't last long, but we spent ten minutes kissing. I didn't want to let him go, and he was slowly moving in and out of me with his already soft penis before it was too soft to stay in me.

Later we made something for food. One of my friend visited me when we were in kitchen and although I tried to be like nothing had happened, I couldn't concentrate on anything but how my bed were open and, and it had a drying wet spot thanks to us just fucking in it.

When she was talking with my dad, I couldn't think but could she smell anything funny and what would she say if she would know what we had just done. I had went in toilet after sex, but I hadn't washed my pussy. Being wet at work all day, waiting the afternoon, I didn't mind letting dads sperm flow in my panties and my pussy was still moist from it.

I had been afraid how he would react after his orgasm, but he was more relaxed now. Still a bit shocked, but not like last time.

Second time ended just a 45 minutes ago. It lasted longer time. Maybe fifteen minutes before he came inside me. He left to sleep, he would had wanted to sleep here, but I couldn't take any chances with it. I was fingering myself and playing with his sperm, using it as a lube, before I decided to write this note. We will meet, I was about to say tomorrow, but actually today. I told him not to use the toy before I get there, lol.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

This update actually makes me feel better for you than the one where you first had intercourse. He seems to be at peace with the notion that this hot young woman he's having sex with is his daughter. He came to your apartment knowing sex was going to happen. He didn't come over and give you the "it was a mistake" talk. He came over, fucked you twice, and tried to talk his way into a sleepover.

And by now you've been to his place with sex front and center on the agenda. The serious question that comes next is how far you want to take this.

Do you want to keep some level of deniability? Live separately? Act like your merely a dating couple with your own lives and occasional meetings for meals and sex?

Move back in together for supposed "budget" reasons so you can have daily contact while maintaining the fiction that you're not a couple?

I'm glad you got what you wanted. I'm ecstatic that it continues to go well for you. But never loose sight of the fact that what you're doing is not completely accepted by society at large and you'll have to take care moving forward.

Good luck.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Short update.

First. We "almost" got caught. There was no real risk though, but last saturday before we would go to sauna, we were making love in his bed and his friend first called his phone and few minutes later dads door bell rang. We thought his friend were behind the door and we were so scared, but still feeling safe and continued making love but kept our mouth shut.

Turned out that he had called to him, but he wouldn't had enough time to get behind the door, so we think that they might have been jehovas witness or something like that.

A hour or so later we were in showerroom, and we could heard other family were in the sauna. We were standing up. I was leaning my back on dad and he was fingering me, giving me orgasm. I loved it and the excitement that we were there, just one wall behind them and masturbating gave nice thrill to it.

Under the shower, dad did something which I do not approve. While kissing me there, he made a love bite. So, I have been using polo shirt. I can laugh to it now, but noticing it on my neck were not a nice surprise.

Dad was also worried for the first time that is it okay that he have cum inside me. We didn't had much time to really discuss about it in there, and whispering there isn't that good because the shower is so loud. But anyway, when I got back home, I understood that he had thought about it and that he meant pregnancy. He didn't had any difficulties to cum inside me before we went to sauna though, but still he had thought about the risks.

We have slept two nights together too and I have went to work from his home. That is the safest way to "play house", because his friends will not meet him at morning.

I read your message almost immediately when you had sent it, but I didn't had time to answer it. I was thinking about dads worries and your message and I do want to bring this as far as we possible can. But I think I want us to have some deniability.

I have thought how easy it would be to live together. We were talking about pregnancies and risks earlier today, and dad said how he would not have problem with me moving with him because we lived so long together and our relationship have always been so close and great and now it also includes sex.

But for real, I do not have any faith that it would happen, atleast not before this rush or "honeymoon" have been settled a bit. We have been riskying it every single day. Even the messages we sent with phone are giving away something fishy, although we do not put anything overly sexual in them. I know the money is not a problem, neither if we would explain "low budget" to our friends, nor that for now I have enough of it.

Those are things that could be easy to settle if needed.

I think the main problem for moving in together is that I have and I would love also in future to let him cum inside me. The problem what it arises is chance for inbreeding. He have made me, so why couldn't he make something in me too. I told him that there is a chance for it when he asked could he get me pregnant.

I'm on pill and I do trust them, but yet, every single time when he have cum inside me and although it is ME who have wanted and still want it to happen, I too think about the risk. I know the chance to get pregnant is low, but yet, the low chance, is still a chance. I must admit that it add spice to what we have. I know you would hate to inbreed, but even you must admit that having sex without a condom is the best experience and knowing it happens in you, is the best feeling ever. Which one would you choose, to take away the risk with condoms, or sharing the feeling (and (although low) risk) with the one you love?

If dad and me would move in together and then one day, year, five years, ten years later I would find out, despite the pills and everything, that i'm going to have his baby... oh wow. I must admit that I'm so in love right now that even the contradictory idea feels so good, but if that would happen for real, I couldn't explain it to anyone then. It wouldn't matter if I would move out then. I couldn't deny or hide it. How could I explain first my growing belly and then a real living and breathing child? It would ruin our lives.

To hide it, I would need staged "boyfriends", one night stands, trips to all kinds of places alone. I do not want to do that, and I couldn't use anyone as a substitute father for our children. I'm not that selfish or evil.

But it is not that simple. I do not feel the need to have a baby right now, but I know, that in the future I will. I must admit that I do not know what I will do then or could we be together then. Some of my friends have babies and they have told me how it is not a decision, but how when the time comes with their right ones, it is a need. I have always loved my dad and I do not see how it would change in the future. If we are together then, would I be able to keep myself on pill and not getting blind of the seemingly safe and peaceful time and situation.

And then there is the undeniable fact too that someday my dad will be old man.

If I would get pregnant by accident, there would be only one easy solution, but it would need a very difficult decision. Would I have our baby or would I have abortion.

It is frightening to give an argument in favor of for the deniability, and I mean, in our case, to live apart, and only because of the chance if we would someday get pregnant. I do not know if you understand what I mean. What I mean is, if I would move in with him, I would also NEED to (to be able to) choose the abortion in a heart beat. But this decision to live apart would give me and him too, atleast more time to choose from abortion OR having a baby together.

We discussed about this today, not as deeply as I put it in here because the topic is not as easy as it sounds.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

First off, oral contraceptives are less failure prone than condoms by a factor of ten or more as long as you remain faithful to the dosing schedule. Injected ones are even more reliable since they give you an extended safe period. Assuming STDs are not an issue, go ahead and have sex bare. It feels better and there is research indicating that there are natural substances in semen that enhance a woman's enjoyment and mental well being.

The monetary reason for moving in together was merely the first thing to come to mind as justification for the move. I'm sure that with some thought you and your father can decide on a better cover story. If you decide you need a story at all. My only concern is about how many bedrooms his apartment has. If it's not at least two any excuse will ring hollow for those looking in from the outside. You have to be able to maintain the fiction that you aren't sleeping in the same bed if visitors come to the apartment.

And now we come to what I suspect to be the real sticking point. What if, despite precautions, you get pregnant? That is a question for you and your conscience I'm afraid and I'll not put my thumb on the scale beyond urging you to take advantage of all the early testing you can to insure the baby is healthy before you fully commit to taking it to term.

As far as explaining it to your friends, don't worry, and don't try to set up some after the fact evening of sex to blame it on. Unless your friends are with you all evening, every evening, you can hand wave and talk about (but not have) a drunken, anonymous one night stand where the condom broke or the guy didn't pull out like he said he would. You didn't go get the morning after pill because you're on the pill already. There is no need to expose yourself to some random stranger, merely to invent him.

Now I have a request for you. I'd like to see who I've been advising and encouraging for the last seven weeks. Could you send me a picture of yourself? I've dropped my email address in the comments several times already so I won't repeat it now. But would you please consider humoring me?



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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Are things progressing for you and your father? Are you still having sex frequently? Have you come to any decisions about living arrangements, bare or protected intercourse, and what the future holds?

Have you expanded the sexual menu since you became involved? I know that initial rush of excitement can't go on forever. Have you given him oral to completion? Anal? If you have considered it and he's reluctant, you need to work on him some more. If he doesn't want to cum anywhere but your pussy because he thinks it's degrading, it means the image of you as his daughter and not his willing partner is still getting in the way during sex. For a fully rounded sex life, you should be willing to do anything sexual for him that you would do for your boyfriends over the years. And he should do the same for you.

I do hope you'll update your story. I didn't want to scare you off with my photo request, for that is truly what it was, a request, not a demand.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

I just want to send this note, so you can see that I have read your messages. I do not have much time to write anything else at the moment (my friend will be here in fifteen minutes) but to say that I will send a message asap. The christmas time have kept me really busy too and I have slept with my dad every night now. For your first two questions, how things have been going with dad, the answer is: good. I will explain more about what have happened later.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

I'm glad to hear things are going well for you and your father. I look forward to your next update.

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

This message is written within separate days and therefore it is so long, repetitive and can jump from one time to another. I hope you don't get confused too much. I read it through and because I do not want (and I do not have much time) to write every part all over again, and because the chronological time is not that important, because it is been three weeks since I sent a message last time, I just let it be and therefore there maybe some sentences that feel out of place or repeat same thoughts over and over again. Messy days and messy thoughts.

If you want to know who I look like, my friends have said I have similar facial features with the actress who play the role of the Carol in a show called Last Man Standing. Kirsten Schaal. They have said I have a similar happy face. One of my friend have said that I have also similar features with the actress from Seinfeld, Julia Louis-Dreyfus. To me they do not look like similar at all. But that is what my friends have said.

But while Kirsten and Julia has normal body shape, today I'm leaned more on the chubby side than normal shape although I'm not overweight.

I also have much larger breasts than her and they are drooping. I must admit that it put smile in my face when you wrote that I should push my ”young perky breasts” against my dad, because they are not perky and nothing like they were when I was a teen. My breasts are big. I'm not teen either. I'm on my mid thirties.

Today I have neck long wavy hair which is also dark brown. My hair style is similar than of the main actress in a political satire show ”BrainDeadâ& euro;, Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

I'm curvaceous for real. I have a hourglass figure, which is quite unusual here. Back in school, when we measured all the girls, I was the only one with the hourglass hip waist ratio. All my friends say I should be proud of it. It is quite difficult to be proud of it, because I can't find any clothes that would actually fit me and wrong clothes make me either look fat, or wrapped like a sausage and now that I do have a bit of a belly and ass, it isn't helping.

I'm still quite flexible and I can do splits without problems, although watching by my body now, nobody would believe it. All thanks goes to liking sports when I was younger. I used to run and go jogging and I was also playing ringette for a while. I had to stop it though when my breasts grew bigger. Jogging have stayed, but today I usually walk rather than jog and of course I also stretch regularly because I do not want backpains.

Like I said I have some belly, breasts and wide hips. I'm also quite tall, I'm 181 cm, which makes me look even bigger. And I think if I managed to change the height right, it is 5 feet and almost 11 inches, which does make me prominent among my friends. I'm the tallest of them.

Well. What else I could tell… It is difficult to say anything about myself, because I see this everyday from the mirror and it is too regular for me, but I try.

I have glasses. I do not have tattoos or piercings other than for my earrings. Ten years ago I loved to have a bun (hairstyle, where all hair is collected behind the head) I wanted to have a beehive hair, but the length were not enough. Without the bun my hair were like with the actress from Will & Grace, Debra Messing but I couldn't get enough lenght for it. I think that is why my friends have said that I look like the actress from Seinfeld because she did had similar curly hair.

My dad and my friends were horrified when I cut them shorter, but I hated loose hair to fill the drain in shower. Now I have a style which hair is shorter and framing my face and like I said, it look similar what actress Mary Elizabeth Winstead is having in Braindead.

I wear stylish, classical clothes because my work needs it. Because of that, in my free time I do like to play with style or get completely relaxed and although it was horrible to stand before my father when I was having those fuck me lingerie, covering some of me, but offering both my pussy and nipples for him, I do like those lingerie and that ”statement” really meant something for me.

Now I'm trying to find see through lingerie for the christmas, for his present. I try to find something which isn't only for sex, but which could be useful too. I want them to be surprise.

One of my boyfriends said once that I have a "ball" breasts and he meant that (although they are drooping they are not flat), when I turn quickly, they bounce from side to side. He was sometimes ”playing flipper” with them. I didn't like it, lol. My breasts also have a gap in between them. Two to three fingers wide and that same ex loved it and he wanted to stick his cock in between them. I do have a cleavage and push-up bras really push them up if I want that.

Dad said that I have a line as a pussy. My outer lips, or labia major or what they are called, are making my pussy look like there is only a line from my ass to front. I do not have smaller lips practically at all.

With some of my boyfriends and with my dad, their sperm can stay inside me quite a long time. I do not know if it is because my pussy is in odd angle or what, but my friends have said that with their boyfriends their sperm flows out immediately and they can push it out. I can push it out too, but to get all the rest out I have to wait for it to flow out. Eventually it will, but it takes time.

That is why I have spent day at work with moist panties if we have had sex in the morning shower. I could use a pad, but if I haven't had anything special that day, I do like it sometimes to remind me about dad. Also a week ago, we were making love and after orgasm, I stayed in bed and read a book. Dad was doing something else. When he got back to bed, he wanted to make love again and he was surprised that his sperm were still in me.

One of my boyfriend loved a lines which form from my pussy, towards my hips and in between of my legs and belly. When I'm wearing thong or bikini bottoms, they are clearly visible especially when I have shaved. I haven't paid any attention to other women do they have similar lines, but my dad have liked them too. He have said that they points to my pussy.

I do not have any tattoos. I do not wear too much makeup and I do not wear too many jewelry either. My work needs "respectable attire".

To be continued

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Although I have have hips and breasts and I say I'm on the chubby side, I can still sit in chairs just fine and my belly isn't drooping not to mention covering my pussy. I use to walk a hour every day a week and also stretch but with my figure I can't do sport anymore. Those two balls on my chest won't allow it. I felt somewhat ashamed of them too when I was teen. And someone playing ”flipperâ&eur o; with them didn't help it later on. Back in the junior high and highschool when I was running, the boys were cheering. But they were cheering although I wasn't winning. Now I understand that they were just childish, but with a fragile self esteem, it killed the hobby then.

I did had something else in my mind, but I can't remember it now.

It's been a really busy weeks. The christmas is making everything busy. I've also been sleepíng with my dad all these nights past week and I haven't spent much time at my own home or not even with my friends. I have went to work from his place and then after work I have went back to him.

We were at a local christmas happening two weeks ago, enjoying new snow and because it was cold, dad hugged me, but with fatherly way, not taking me full bear hug, not to mention caressing or groping me. Although it was all innocent, I couldn't help but feeling his touch made me really naughty and horny, being fully aware how nobody knew how i****tuous it all was! Thinking about all the people around us, and having my womb full of his seed, and having sex only couple of hours ago, after work, in his bed, that moment was really lovely and soon I couldn't handle it and I whispered I want to kiss him. I tried to, but he avoided it. I wasn't hurt, because I realized how public we were! I whispered how I wanted to get back home. He didn't like to kiss me there and didn't need much encouragement to leave, but we couldn't get back home then yet. We had to get some stuff for home.

The moment was lovely, but there is one thing which made it special. We couldn't do anything at there, but I liked it!

I must admit that I do like the moment when (with my exes of course before this time) I have been out somewhere with them and I get horny and we can't get back home so soon and the horniness continues. Now experiencing it with my dad it was extra special because of the forbidden aspect of all of it, including the short moment when I tried to reach to kiss him.

It is so easy, almost too easy to have sex today because my friends do not come to meet me at my fathers home, not without calling first anyway, and that I know they will not bother us there. Dads friends can come to visit, but the front door is locked and they must wait for him to open it so that short time too makes it safer for us to clean or hide everything away. I have never need to hide sex from anyone really. Of course we had to be careful so my exes parents couldn't saw, but I was then already living alone and having sex at my place made it easy, so I haven't been able to feel that lovely feeling too often.

I like the feeling when we couldn't got back home so soon and we felt the burning, it made us feel like teen again. Even dad was playful, although much more cautious than I was. Lovely agony when I had to wait to get it.

I admit that I'm in love, not just the way I have always loved him as my father, but how I would love to live with him for the rest of my life, and that love include of having a family with him. I haven't yet say how I love him. It will be difficult, because now it has whole, much deeper new meaning.

Since I wrote the last message and after reading your comment, I could've help but thinking about the future of us as well and we have discussed about it a lot! Don't worry, I'm not going to get pregnant, but talking about both moving in together and what-if getting pregnant with my dad, has brought us even more together than plain sex would. Week ago, wednesday, we went (well, he brought me to drug store because I asked) to get a pregnancy test. We have talked about pregnancy or how to get pregnant, but he have avoided the real consequences topic before just like I did and most of our discussion have been only light fantasies and what if scenarios, but past weeks he have opened up more to the future.

Last wednesday it got serious when I made him face that the possibility is really there every time he fills me, by making him to buying the test with me and doing it together with me after sauna. He was really, and I mean really surprised and shocked when I got back from work and said that I need that test, lol! Of course there was no need for it, but I wanted to see his reaction too.

I'm getting more open to the idea of having a baby with him. What I mean is not that I'm planning to get it, no. I mean, if someday I notice that test is positive and I'm really pregnant for him, it would be very difficult to decide to get an abortion and I admit that now I would be more open to accept to have a baby than not. Dad said when we were in sauna that if he could get me pregnant, it would be impossible for him to ask for an abortion from me, not only because he feels it would be my choice, but because he would also know it is his child growing in me. He said that if that would happen, he would like to see me give birth to his baby. He is not making it easy!

Dad was open up to the idea we could seek a new house together too, but we haven't planned anything yet. He even joked to get one with three room.

Athough it is funny to joke about family and we love to ”practice” getting it, the choice to actually have a baby together by accident, not to mention by quitting the pill, would be nearly impossible even if I would take all the tests and if I could know our baby might have a good chance to be healthy. But like I said, we have talked about what we should do if I do get pregnant. I'm still thinking that I should get abortion, but I'm not sure if I could do that if that happens. But in the mean time, despite the minimal risk there always is, I want us to have sex bare.



To be continued

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Anonymous

by Anonymous

Now I remember what I needed to mention. I have been sleeping with dad every night now, and last wednesday after sauna one of his friend were visiting him quickly.

Dad and I had sex in sauna, and were about to have sex again in kitchen and I had just peed to the pregnancy test in toilet and we were waiting in kitchen for it. Dad sat down and were sucking my nipples while fingering me. They were hard and sensitive and the semen he had ejaculated in me in shower, had got my inner thighs wet. I was masturbating him too when the doorbell rang.

Dad managed to get softer before I opened the door and let his friend in. I didn't had a bra, only a old t-shirt for bed. I saw myself from the mirror when I walked past it. I was a bit ashamed that it was so clear how hard my nipples were, but also a bit arousing too. Of course there were nothing which would had told him that dad were sucking my nipples, but it made me feeling sexual. I didn't try to pose for him, nothing like that, but he must've seen them. Him seeing my hard nipples are not that serious. But the moment was somehow very sexual because just like at the marketplace, he too made us wait for the good. Oh god if he would knew that first the pregnancy test were in toilet waiting for us and what we had talked about inbreeding in shower and how dad sucked ”milk” from my breasts and caressed my belly when he had rang the doorbell.

About his place. Dad is living in apartment that has kitchen, living room, toilet and one bedroom. We moved in there together before I was going to move out because he wanted to save money and he didn't need a bigger house alone. He has double bed and we have always slept in there and sleep in there now. His friend knows that I do sleep in there too. Of course, if we move in together, I do agree, it needs to change. Bigger house, different bed for me...

If we ever move in together, I have even thought could I get my tubes tied to be sure. That would be drastic move though and I'm not serious about that.

First, this is still the ”honeymoon” and decisions like that sounds easy solutions. But, I do not have any kids, and although I do not have the need yet and both dad and me understand the risk, especially now that we have talked more seriously about it, I feel that I can't do that and I understand that one day I will want to have children but then, with tubes tied, it would be impossible.

Dad is of course inviting me to his place in open arms and I would like that too, but somehow I think he doesn't understand that people might see it differently and the future is also very uncertain. I tried to explain him why the pregnancy, with the risk of inbreeding needs to be a possibility for us.

This is really difficult situation when thinking about the future and to be honest, the pregnancy needs to be a possibility. It means that I need to dance on knives edge with the chance of inbreeding. It doesn't make it any easier to think who I could possibly get for a father in the future when I get the feel to need to have family. I have thought would that be cheating dad then. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. What I mean is that if we do move in together, it will close lots of doors from us and it mean that we will do lifelong decisions already, including tying the tubes. If we live separately, it can offer more appropriate solutions and would let me have the chance to breed someday, but also lots of those not so appropriate solutions and that means breeding with my dad.


I hate the character limitation here!

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I do not have a mom, and I've never knew her. I won't tell why because someone might recognize us then. Dad have raised me and he have been the "mom" to me too. Also my friends mothers have been the mother figure for me. When dad said that he would like to see me keeping our baby, I know he was serious. I'm his only child and over the years when we have talked about our situation, although he haven't said it out loud, I know one of his biggest dreams have been having a whole family again. He tried to find new mom when I was younger. Now, I'm standing against that again.

I do not blame myself about it, but I can understand his feelings, because of course I'm in same position. If we do stay together for the rest of our lives, I'm going to end up in similar situation as he is now, but there is one difference, when he is gone, I do not have anybody. I have thought that maybe, if we would get pregnant somehow, then we could move in together and dad could be there to help and support us. Adoption is not really an option. It would be very very difficult and time consuming to try to have it as a single parent.

See how easily all the paths points straight to my own dad, which is then impossible option too. This is not just about the pregnancy and family, this is about life choices. Will I have a family or not and the time for menopause doesn't wait.

This is serious topic, but don't read this too seriously either, I'm only wondering about this situation back and forth and there is still lots and lots of time for everything. Who knows, one day we just decide to quit all this and continue our lives like nothing happened and maybe I won't have the need for a family ever.

This has nothing to do with what I wrote about before. But I ”datedâ&eu ro; that boy friend I told earlier. It was only a friendly meeting, but dad asked would I have sex with him. Dad then said that he understand his position. When we talked about it, I sensed that he was about to start the ”dad” talk, but I did stopped him. I do not deny that I did thought about my friend and what future might be with him. I like both their company, but dad has that super sexy aura too, which makes me want him more than my friend. My friend is not bad either but the situation is still too open between me and my dad that I do not want to go to have sex or relationship with my friend and I do not want to, and I do not want my dad to, to make any harsh decisions. I read my earlier comment about my friend, and I had said that I wouldn't do anything with him until I could have sex with my dad. I had thought nothing but sex then, but now there are loving feelings too. I admit that I'm in love.

Dad did said he wouldn't mind if I have sex with my friend, but atleast now, I highly doubt it. It sounded more jealousy than honesty. Dad has nothing to be afraid though. If something sexy ever happens with my friend, I'll make sure I have my dads sperm in my womb before it lol.

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About the anal. Dad have been open to everything in practice and I'm sure sooner or later we will have anal sex too. I don't see why not. Only problem is that usually I would love to have every single bit of his seed inside my pussy and he would need to have condom too, so even after anal he could cum inside my pussy. But if dad want to cum inside my ass too, I won't stop him. It usually needs a special moment for me to do anal.

I have sucked him off three times now and I have made him cum inside my mouth and I do swallow. I haven't done this with my dad, but sometimes I have ”spit it out” too, but I have done it because I had wanted to my ex to see or my ex have asked me to show that it is there in my mouth.

One time in the heat of the sauna I sucked him off and he have licked me there too, while the other family were already coming into their shower room and we had to leave quickly.

But all those things are still new and experimenting for us, not really ”in the menu”. It is not that I would not want them or would not do them, but because the truth is he is getting old, he can't have sex so many times in a day and atleast for now, he have been quick and we had needed to slow down so he won't orgasm so soon. We just do not have enough time for all of them yet. Usually when he have orgasm, it is done for the day before he can have sex again and sucking him and masturbating him doesn't help and if I can get him orgasm second time, it is surely done for the day then.

So far I have needed to choose from sucking him and then accept that if we fuck he will cum at once, or fucking and enjoying it few moments before he cum. He have said that it is me to blame. I do not mind that he orgasm so easily. I like it. I trust it will get easier for him, because those times when he have managed to have sex second time in a day, he can enjoy it much longer time. It is extremely exciting for me too, so I understand him.

I'm not worried though that our menu have been so empty so far. I also mean that with every new boyfriend I have had it have been the same. Sex (intercourse) is regular right from the beginning, but all the spice comes later after this experimenting or ”honeymoon” phase. I'm not in hurry. We have all the time.

Since he masturbated me with the dildo and with his fingers, couple of days ago he fingered my ass while he was in my pussy. He didn't really push it in me although I wouldn't deny him, but he was caressing around the opening, like the way he does when I'm laying on my back and he caresses my clitoris. Orally he have also tongued my ass once, so I don't think anal is nothing out of the ordinary for him. I think it will be me who is anxious when it comes to anal sex.

When I have played with my ass before, while masturbating, I have played mostly with my fingers because I want toys to have condoms on them before I stick them in my ass, and usually I haven't really bother to get them just for masturbation. And I don't have rubbers at the moment. But because dad have been really quick to orgasm, I guess we could use condoms.

Now that I think of it, it could also offer us to have me ”stuffed” having him and my dildo in both of my holes. I've tried that with my toys, but never with a person and I'm not even sure would it be possible without lubing me up inside out.

Although condoms are useful. They take away some of the feeling a bare cock has and although I do love dildoes I do not like the feeling of having a man fucking me who has a ”dildo” between his legs. But I won't complain when it is needed and I do not mean that I dislike condoms either.

This I wrote after that last phrase. I asked dad would he like to fuck and cum inside my ass. We didn't had anal sex, but he is open to it and I took it like he wouldn't had any problem with things like that.

I must admit that I'm slightly afraid of it though. But because he can cum so quickly, and he doesn't rush, I'm not afraid of him hurting me. I'm afraid what will happen after his cum comes out. Lol, I don't mind going in toilet, but going to toilet because of I need to push his sperm all out, is something I do not know how I could handle it. Funny that I'm not shy if he would put it all in me, but I am if I need to push it out.

It is silly to say this after so little time we have been having sex together, but I think I can never get him to see me as an ”adult� � or ”girlfriend” or even ”wife”. To me he is my father, my dad, despite the sex and all the discussions lately how we could be father and mother for our child. I guess he see me similarly as his little girl although of course I'm independent adult woman and he also see me like that too. I do like it. I quess, it is nice to never grow up, lol! I do not think he sees me as his ”pure and innocent” girl anymore either but I doubt it changes even if he would see my belly growing, wether we would move in together or not, lol. I don't think sex has nothing to do with it. I think it is about respect. When I've been with my exes, it is about love and we are intependent and equal. But with my dad, when I mention dad, that word hold the fact that he is older, wiser, and I can ask him all kinds of things because I feel he knows that I do not know everything. I don't know what kinds of things I can offer for him. We are not exactly equal in that way. He makes me feel safer than I have felt with my exes. Maybe in the future, when he will get older and will need help, I can be there for him and he will feel safer with me. That is interesting question and point of view.

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